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(frozen comment) Re: hmm

[(Anonymous)]

some bitter "get off my lawn!" type food, sure. thanks, we can do without it! Yikes. i mean a person made a happy "I love the fandom" comment and you just had to come and take it down a peg. i know i know, you'll say you're just expressing your opinion, but why did you have to do it replying to someone who clearly just wanted a happy thread? you just HAD to come and leave this comment to make sure people who write here doubt whether their work is good enough, and act superior like your taste is better compared to people who just enjoy the fandom for what it is, faults and all.

~people who get confused by english dialect clearly don't do enough reading~ oh boy...

Then the tumblr versus LJ stuff! you're just innocently adding food for thought? be honest. you are just trying to be edgy like you have such better education/taste and create conflict. Keep it away from the rest of us and save your edgy thoughts for your f-locked LJ posts will ya? (like anyone even uses LJ anymore seriously tumblr happened get over it)

(frozen comment) Re: hmm

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not the person you replied to, but I find your comment much more negative and unnecessary than theirs was. Granted, I personally think the commenter was wrong in their beliefs that there has been a change in fic quality, and that there are clear differences between LJers and Tumblr users, but it's easy to explain why you feel differently without having a go at them.

Maybe they shouldn't have been harshing someone's squee, but as you can see above, the OP of the thread wasn't bothered by it and even agreed with some points, so it's clearly not as huge a deal for them as you're making it out to be.

Also, if you read their comment, they said that people who find dialect confusing aren't going to like the book or the show, which is probably true. As a former language teacher, I have found that it is the case (and I am sure there are studies to prove it) that people who read a lot find it easier to discern the meaning of an unfamiliar word based on the context than people who don't read. So that assertion isn't necessarily wrong either. Although I suppose the commenter could have worded the idea (or their whole comment, in fact) a bit more carefully than they did.

As this is the discussion post and not the squee post, I don't think people should be told off for posting comments that aren't 100% positive in tone. Criticism and strong opinions are often what get discussion flowing after all.

(frozen comment) Re: hmm

[(Anonymous)]

(anon you replied to)

it's so funny that when somebody behaves rudely, it's the person who says "hey, you are being rude and here's why" that gets people like you jumping on them to say in deliberately mannered polite tones "you, the one pointing out someone is being an ass, are the problem! you are having a go at them"

As this is the discussion post and not the squee post
you know very well my complaint was to do with this person choosing to reply all this stuff (bad fic on the increase, tumblr type people and fewer LJ people accounts for this, quality of prompts and fic is degenerating, snooty comment about writers being bad because they don't read enough) -in reply so someone who was just happy and happy about the fic and happy about fandom and wanted to share that. why the need to take a dump on someone else out of nowhere?

like just why reply like that? other than to make yourself seem superior, you're so much better-educated and better-read than other writers, have such superior discernment and taste, they simply have to do some service to fandom and pronounce on the decline in quality of fic, and framing it like they're more mature in some way and so that gives them the right to pour a bucket of cold water over someone just having fun and taking fandom as it comes.

this person claims to have been in fandom 12 years and they're shocked! just shocked! that fandoms go through cycles as the popularity of the canon text fluctuates? Come onnn.

their whole comment was wank-bait in reply to someone just being positive about fandom. this doesn't make people want to write better or ~read more~ (please teacher grade my fanfic and give me assigned reading so i can improve! ugh)

The fact is without tumblr there would be no fandom here, or very little, because like I said, fandom is ON tumblr nowadays. Not LJ. Whatever I just think the person was an ass looking for drama, they got it, and I'm not really sure what you get out of playing all wounded on their behalf.

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I'm freezing this thread. Courteous debate in the Discussion Post is fine, but I do not have the time to moderate a heated drawn out argument, the kink meme is not the place for that. Please take it somewhere else.