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Episode 4 Discussion (no book spoilers pls!)

[(Anonymous)]

Comment here for ep4 discussion!

tumblr recs?

[(Anonymous)]

anyone got any tumblr recommendations? I'm trying to find fanart for the show especially.

[(Anonymous)]

When does this premier in the US?

Ep1 is here

[(Anonymous)]

(only available in the US)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMfWTECN-0E

New Book Readers?

[(Anonymous)]

Anybody started on the book since being introduced to it via the show? I'm trying to get my hands on a copy. Might be cool to have some book discussion here.

Gentleman WtTH question...

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe book readers could answer this. Why is the gentleman with the thistledown hair able to just start appearing in the human world after Norrell summons him back? Basically before Norrell talked to him the second time, was he unable to travel between the worlds? And was he completely unable to come to the human world before Norell called him the first time?

I'm just wondering, if GWtTH was able to travel to human realm whenever he liked wouldn't he have been getting up to more mischief bc so far he's been pretty tame. Well other than kidnapping a couple of people.

A Queastion on Grant

[(Anonymous)]

So it seems that Grant is very popular on the meme, paired with just about everyone (including Childermass.) I've only seen one episode of the show and I'm on page 448 of the book, and Grant didn't really make much of an impression on me at all. Is he more important on the show? Or particularly handsome? Or is it just that he made more of an impression on others than me?

Arabella's Lady Garden

[(Anonymous)]

I'm writing a fic, and there's a section written from Jonathan's POV where I want to make a passing reference to her quim. Would that term squick people out, do you think? I like the word, it's a bit archaic, but it's widely used here in England today, as it was in his time. Any strong views? Pussy seems twee, and vagina jyst doesn't sound much like Jonathan's style.

Thanks in advance!

Any rp-ers out there?

[(Anonymous)]

Cause I have a burning need to play some of the characters from this damn book. (Some of the more obscure and/or secondary ones, but still.) Once, many, many moons ago, I played in a game over on lj with some JS&MN characters on it. I would do unspeakable things to get the chance to do that again.

Anyone want to help a sister out here?

Amazing kink meme is amazing

[(Anonymous)]

Just wanted to give a shout out to all the OPs and their great prompts and all of the Anon Authors and their excellent prompt fills. I mean, come on, the quality of the stories coming out of this meme is fantastic!

Currently working my way through to make sure I've left comments on everything I've read and loved because it's good to share the love.

Keep doing you, JSMN Kink Meme!

Changes From Book to Show

[(Anonymous)]

I've been watching the show and reading the book at the same time, and I've noticed some changes.

Some- like Jonathan's sand horses actually being dramatic and impressive, or Segundus not forgetting who Childermass is- I don't mind, but others I don't like as much. Like Norrell stealing Strange and Arabella's letters, for example- I'm almost offended on his behalf. It's so evil! Even if he is going to intercept their post, why not reseal it and send it on? Stopping them from having any contact at all just seems so mean-spirited!

And then there are ones that I'm not entirely sure about, like Jonathan talking to the trees in ep 3. It's interesting that they're trying to lay down the Raven King's alliances thing early, but at the same time it's such a fundamental change in the limits of magic compared to the book- he can't even move a forest, but in the book he moves an entire city (people and all) to America! And it's mostly treated as a sort of joke.

What do you think, meme? Do you like the changes? What else have you noticed?

Non-Con Strange: what's going on here?

[(Anonymous)]

Don't get me wrong, fellow memers: I ADORE non-con and dub-con stories about Strange. In fact, I love any stories were he's physically, emotionally or psychically stressed to breaking point, so I guess that also includes those heartbreakingly painful ones with Grant.

But recently, the sandwich!fic and the French soldiers!fic have had me in full-on squee overload. I'm not embarrassed about it, but I don't know why I find them so incredibly hot/exciting/poignant. The more realistic (pain, weeping, shit) and less theatrical (collars and BDSM) the better, but that's just my preference, and I fully embrace my fellow memers who love the theatrical stuff: I'm not judging! But why do I dig it? I just don't know.

In the fandom, Segundus and Drawlight seem to suffer the most, but Strange really gets worked over too.

So I'm asking the people like me who also LOVE this stuff: why do you love it? And why Strange?

stop Russians from flooding all threads

[(Anonymous)]

So, here we are. I thought that it would be better if we communicated here instead of flooding fills-and-prompts. I guess there are no restrictions against it? At least we can exchange our contact info here, yeah?

Dunno if we should speak Russian or not? Are there any mods/rules?

bluray

[(Anonymous)]

So is it just me or does the American bluray have like no special features? Are the deleted scenes only on the British one? Is someone out there willing to put them online somewhere? Or am I going to have to buy myself a regionless player and a new copy of the series? (I will do it if I have to. The lack of extras is some serious bullshit. I didn't drive an hour out of my way to pick it up on video just for my health.)

Book: Footnotes

[(Anonymous)]

Does anybody else find the footnotes to be interesting and hilarious?

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

I love love love this fandom and am so glad I tracked it down after the end of the series when I was like, OMG WHAT DO I DO NOW.

I love that everyone is so excited whenever there's a new prompt.

I love that people chime in and add their thoughts and ideas.

I love that everyone is so friendly and happy even when there is TRAGIC HURT and COMFORT.

I love that ALL the fic is SO SO GOOD. It is so HYSTERICALLY FUNNY and WELL-WRITTEN and SO VERY HOT I THINK MY SCREEN MIGHT BURN OUT. It is the best fic in ANY fandom I have been involved in.

I love that we all know that Childermass is up for anyone and everything, Segundus is an total slut (even if he needs a bit of encouragement sometimes), and Norrell is just, so, Norrell about EVERYTHING.

I JUST HAD TO TELL YOU ALL, *MWAH MWAH*

What's the preferred way to post about a new update in a multi-part fill?

[(Anonymous)]

I've got an ongoing fill which I'm updating every couple of days. What's the etiquette here regarding the fills post? Do I make an update notification as a reply to my original comment on the fills post? Do I make a new comment on the fills post? Do I just stick the new part of the fill up under the old part and hope people remember to check?
What does everyone think is best?

[(Anonymous)]

Not a Tumblr user, but somewhere on Tumblr I spotted an amazing gif of Childermass grabbing Lady Pole's pistol (um, that sounds so wrong, but ykwim) and recoiling as he is shot.

Can anyone link me to it, pleasepleasepleaseplease?

(frozen comment) Has someone cast a spell on the kinkmeme?

[(Anonymous)]

We're had nearly fifty new prompts in the space of 24 hours! It was quite a nice surprise to come home from work and to find so many inspiring new prompts have sprung up almost overnight.

Awkward Request for Advice

[(Anonymous)]

So I recently posted a prompt I was super excited about, and I immediately got a response, which made me really happy. Unfortunately, this response was someone asking for people to fill this prompt FOR THEM. I'm glad that someone else is interested in my prompt, but I feel sort of like they just hijacked a prompt I asked for, and have now completely claimed it as their own. I don't want to butt in and be mean, because I'm sure they meant no harm by it, but I've found it upsetting that this prompt I was so excited about no longer feels like it's my prompt.

Does anyone have any ideas how I might handle this, or is it best just to let the prompt go?

[(Anonymous)]

Seeing as the discussion has moved in kinda this direction - I've been a bit perturbed by the "do I have to write everything myself"-type comments. Not sure if these meet kinkmeme etiquette either. Some posters are not writers; some write very slowly; some have other commitments that mean they can't write as much as they would like. So the implied criticism makes me uncomfortable, even though I'm obviously glad for the fills all the same.

Happy Discussion Thread!

[(Anonymous)]

Because there have been a few problems on the meme here in the last few days (probably necessary, and they seem to be resolving themselves quickly and with a minimum of drama), I thought it might be a good idea to post a discussion thread allowing everyone to say things they've been enjoying about the meme so far. Anything from story recommendations, to great replies you got on a story, to that one prompt you thought was genius. Or just general happiness!

I'll start: I've personally loved seeing all the historical prompts (I have such a weakness for that sort of thing), and the WWI Strange/Norrell series that spawned from this thread (https://jsmn-kinkmeme.dreamwidth.org/1273.html?thread=64505#cmt64505) has been utterly delightful. I've also loved seeing how much enthusiasm everyone has for other peoples' prompts, even the ones that don't get filled. Even when a prompt I've written doesn't get filled, it's so nice to hear other people expressing their interest in it!

This place is not just about prompting and filling, it's become a place where we can go and tell other people what we like about JS&MN, and realize that there are others who also like it!

so is this an appropriate place for an 'oh no I'm attracted to Norrell' club

[(Anonymous)]

Not that you necessarily need to feel oh-no about it. I am vexed at my own predictability+the fact that he's not even meant to be one of the pretty ones. I feel like I'm not supposed to be quite this level of into him, oops. But I'm sure it's not just me, the nature of fandom being what it is.

ANYWAY what is it about him? Is it the bookishness? Eddie Marsan's lovely squishable cheeks? (Can't be that exclusively for me, because book!Norrell is where it began, but could definitely be a contributing factor.)

Talk to me about your crush on Norrell! Or talk to me about the jsmn character you're half annoyed at the degree of attraction you feel for. Whatever really.

(I apologize if this topic is too silly!)

Kinkmeme Etiquette Question

[(Anonymous)]

This is my first time participating in a kinkmeme, so I'm not familiar with what is considered bad form, and I didn't see my question mentioned in the Rules and Guidelines section, so...

I put in a prompt in Round One that gained some interest but (alas) not a fill. It was on Page 16, so I'm worried it just got buried. Can I resubmit the prompt for Round Two, or is that being rude?

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone else completely, hopelessly addicted to this kinkmeme? I think I need to go into some kind of rehab.